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Barbara Didrichsen's avatar

Have you discovered Strong Towns yet? Much of what you talk about is something they've been writing about for years under the heading of the Growth Ponzi Scheme (https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020-8-28-the-growth-ponzi-scheme-a-crash-course).

I'm in Cincinnati and have been a Strong Towns member for several years. We have a Strong Towns Local Conversation group called Civic Cincinnati; I checked, and there's also a group in Cleveland that appears to primarily communicate through Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/strong_towns_cle/).

The Angry Democrat's avatar

Wow. I didnt know this existed. Looks like my people haha. Thank you

Barbara Didrichsen's avatar

I found them early in my traffic safety advocacy in 2016-17. They led me to my people :-)

CP's avatar

It’s natural for people to want more space, especially families. I wish I could afford to live closer to the city, but every service is worse and costs more on top of paying more for the smaller house I’d have to live in. I bought a 70’s house in burbs with great schools and trust me when I say all homes are expensive to update and maintain.

Is it sustainable? I actually think it is. Technology will eventually make itvquite sustainable(I see a world of electrified self driving cars and spread out renewable power generation and storage). Meanwhile I see the urban core being a destination and a place to centralize regional industry/business around. Single people, childless couples, and retirees will still want to live in these cities too which is are groups growing in size. Older suburbs are in demand as much as newer ones. Cost of housing is such that people still buy older homes to renovate. The dilapidated, asbestos ridden, cloned tiny houses they threw up on a weekend during the 50’s post war demand crunch clearly are a bit of a problem these days, but they aren’t all exactly worth saving. In their place newer higher density housing is getting built. I think there’s issue is more these cities adapting to their role as being a livable destination again, not just a place for people to drive into for work.